Guess the Big Bad for House Points II

Who or What is Twilight? (Multiple choices allowed)

  • A Scoob

    Votes: 29 26.4%
  • Sam, or Riley, or something initiative related

    Votes: 18 16.4%
  • Something Mythological, most likely Celtic, or Norse

    Votes: 7 6.4%
  • Kenny the Thricewise, or something related

    Votes: 4 3.6%
  • A Demon

    Votes: 4 3.6%
  • A Mystic

    Votes: 7 6.4%
  • A God

    Votes: 5 4.5%
  • A Slayer

    Votes: 10 9.1%
  • A Watcher

    Votes: 19 17.3%
  • Something, or somebody else

    Votes: 17 15.5%
  • Something we haven't seen or heard of before

    Votes: 14 12.7%
  • Caleb, or something like him. Something related to the First Evil

    Votes: 9 8.2%
  • The Immortal, Pike, Hank Summers, or Ethan Rayne

    Votes: 19 17.3%
  • Kennedy

    Votes: 3 2.7%
  • Warren or Amy

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • A Vampire, or Werewolf

    Votes: 9 8.2%
  • Andrew

    Votes: 4 3.6%
  • An Android or Cyborg (part man, demon, or wholly mechanical)

    Votes: 5 4.5%
  • There's more than one

    Votes: 9 8.2%
  • A human lacking any personal magic power (it comes from objects) 4 9.09%

    Votes: 13 11.8%

  • Total voters
    110
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Don't lash out if the answer is obvious, as I have not read it, but how do you know that is it a male? Could it not be female?
 
nerd4hire
nerd4hire
He lifts his mask to the bottom of his ear.
Could be a female possibly, it's just the physique looked male, but it wouldn't be the first time in a comic/show/movie that we're made to believe someone is a man and they turn out to be a female.
 
Here's why people think of Twilight as being male.

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Also, I'm pretty sure Scott Allie commented on that pic in reference to the male/female question suggesting it shows Twilight is male.
 
Skanky Vamp
Skanky Vamp
thank you.. blokes too tan to be a vampire.. judging by the chin it is evident who it is.. argh, i may have to buy a comic book
In Anywhere But Here, Robin says "The important thing is that you rescue the prince."

Mix that with "The princess leaves her kingdom for the forest of the now". And maybe also "Long live the Queen" and "The Queen is dead"

in the frame where Gigi says "No, YOU have much to prepare, Roden." You can see one of the screens in the background pretty clearly. It shows a blonde girl (presumably Buffy) running up some stairs/construction, pushing a hooded man out of the way. Is it just me or does everybody else also recognise this as being from "The Gift". If so, wow, Twilight has been on Buffy for quite a while, if he was already tracking her during Season 5. What does that tell you?

The Grim Reaper looking guy doesn't remind me of anyone from The Gift, but those stairs really do look like the tower. Also on that page is a pic of what looks to be Buffy on Xander's building site, although that pic could have came from Warren when The Trio were watching Buffy.

So like you said, either Twilight's been watching Buffy for quite a while, or i'm right about it being Angelus, i'm sure Wolfram&Hart have a Buffy file he could steal.
 
I'd be interested as to why it would be Riley...
He'd seen first hand what good the slayer could do so why would he want to take them all out? :S
 
I was convinced it was Xander, even voted for him but now I think I'm with Clem, I'm leaning towards Angelus.

Twilights comment about his chin always struck me as very Angelus-esque. His knowledge of the move Buffy used to kill Caleb and pass off comment he made about not falling for it this time reminded me of Angelus telling Buffy 'It's not about you, it was never about you...and you fall for it everytime!'.

Also if it is Angelus then somehow he and Angel have been separated
(hence Angels new found mortality)
. Who else would have a greater reason to end magic than Angelus? He has been cursed three times, without magic he would be finally rid of the soul.
 
I was convinced it was Xander, even voted for him but now I think I'm with Clem, I'm leaning towards Angelus.

Twilights comment about his chin always struck me as very Angelus-esque. His knowledge of the move Buffy used to kill Caleb and pass off comment he made about not falling for it this time reminded me of Angelus telling Buffy 'It's not about you, it was never about you...and you fall for it everytime!'.

Also if it is Angelus then somehow he and Angel have been separated
(hence Angels new found mortality)
. Who else would have a greater reason to end magic than Angelus? He has been cursed three times, without magic he would be finally rid of the soul.

It certainly works out just like the sort of slick thing Angelus would think up and be able to pull off. The man is nothing if not sneaky.
 
It certainly works out just like the sort of slick thing Angelus would think up and be able to pull off. The man is nothing if not sneaky.

Is it realistic though? I mean if it is Angelus I pressume that will mean some serious crossovers between both comics? How plausible is it?
 
Is it realistic though? I mean if it is Angelus I pressume that will mean some serious crossovers between both comics? How plausible is it?


I don't know much about how the individual companies work now, but "in my day," DC and Marvel did exactly that, had a major crossover about once a year, Spiderman and Superman the first year, then Superman and the Hulk. I think one year they did the Avengers and the JLA.

If IDW and Dark horse want to do it, it CAN be done, just like the old Buffy/Angel crossovers, and I would be surprised if the idea hasn't occurred to Joss. It's the kind of thing he would absolutely love to do.
 
I don't know much about how the individual companies work now, but "in my day," DC and Marvel did exactly that, had a major crossover about once a year, Spiderman and Superman the first year, then Superman and the Hulk. I think one year they did the Avengers and the JLA.

If IDW and Dark horse want to do it, it CAN be done, just like the old Buffy/Angel crossovers, and I would be surprised if the idea hasn't occurred to Joss. It's the kind of thing he would absolutely love to do.

I agree but would he use, what is essentially Angel's main character, as the villian for Buffy?

Maybe it is easier than I think. Angelus/Angel are originally Buffy characters and also ATF is a much shorter story than Season 8. I suppose it could work.
 
white avenger
white avenger
It wouldn't be the first time that Angelus has been Buffy's big bad, and it would certainly take the series "back to its beginning."
Yeah i like the idea and clues that Twiligh is Angelus but am a little put off by the logistics of such an inclusion.....will continue to wait and change my mind every few weeks as to who i think Twilight might be....
 
I would take up the comics again if it turned out to be Angelus! Everything would tie together very nicely and it would be good to see Angelus again.
 
I agree but would he use, what is essentially Angel's main character, as the villian for Buffy?

Maybe it is easier than I think. Angelus/Angel are originally Buffy characters and also ATF is a much shorter story than Season 8. I suppose it could work.


If the character were split into two seperate entities, the way Xander was in "The Replacement," Joss would have it both ways. Angel would be one of the good guys while Angelus is the Big Bad. If it were done the same way that it was done to Xander, that would be even more interesting, because killing Angelus would automatically kill Angel. For the first time, the objective of the defenders would be to capture, rather than destroy the BB.
 
If the character were split into two seperate entities, the way Xander was in "The Replacement," Joss would have it both ways. Angel would be one of the good guys while Angelus is the Big Bad. If it were done the same way that it was done to Xander, that would be even more interesting, because killing Angelus would automatically kill Angel. For the first time, the objective of the defenders would be to capture, rather than destroy the BB.

Really, that way they'd never have to kill Angelus, they'd just have to lock him up and wait for Angel to die of old age
 
If the character were split into two seperate entities, the way Xander was in "The Replacement," Joss would have it both ways. Angel would be one of the good guys while Angelus is the Big Bad. If it were done the same way that it was done to Xander, that would be even more interesting, because killing Angelus would automatically kill Angel. For the first time, the objective of the defenders would be to capture, rather than destroy the BB.

Which would nicely tie in the Gov/Iniative storyline again.

Personally, I think it would take season 8 to whole new levels if it turns out to be Angelus.
 
white avenger
white avenger
yeah. The lower levels of Hadyn
The next question is, when will this brainstorm be revealed? If it is a crossover, it would have to be sometime after LA escapes from hell, and that's something that hasn't even been hinted at yet. Unless Willow somehow finds out about the situation there, tries to do another of her "get out of hell free" spells like she used on Buffy in Season 6, but on a tremendously greater level, and the feedback causes her to go Dark Willow again.
 
The next question is, when will this brainstorm be revealed? If it is a crossover, it would have to be sometime after LA escapes from hell, and that's something that hasn't even been hinted at yet. Unless Willow somehow finds out about the situation there, tries to do another of her "get out of hell free" spells like she used on Buffy in Season 6, but on a tremendously greater level, and the feedback causes her to go Dark Willow again.

They could always do it so that time goes so fast in Hell-A that by the time they get out it's Fray time, and Dark Willow somehow takes them back to the past.

Although, if it's Angelus, and if the SP made Angel human at the same time that LA went to hell, maybe Angelus never went to hell at all
 
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