Guess the Big Bad for House Points II

Who or What is Twilight? (Multiple choices allowed)

  • A Scoob

    Votes: 29 26.4%
  • Sam, or Riley, or something initiative related

    Votes: 18 16.4%
  • Something Mythological, most likely Celtic, or Norse

    Votes: 7 6.4%
  • Kenny the Thricewise, or something related

    Votes: 4 3.6%
  • A Demon

    Votes: 4 3.6%
  • A Mystic

    Votes: 7 6.4%
  • A God

    Votes: 5 4.5%
  • A Slayer

    Votes: 10 9.1%
  • A Watcher

    Votes: 19 17.3%
  • Something, or somebody else

    Votes: 17 15.5%
  • Something we haven't seen or heard of before

    Votes: 14 12.7%
  • Caleb, or something like him. Something related to the First Evil

    Votes: 9 8.2%
  • The Immortal, Pike, Hank Summers, or Ethan Rayne

    Votes: 19 17.3%
  • Kennedy

    Votes: 3 2.7%
  • Warren or Amy

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • A Vampire, or Werewolf

    Votes: 9 8.2%
  • Andrew

    Votes: 4 3.6%
  • An Android or Cyborg (part man, demon, or wholly mechanical)

    Votes: 5 4.5%
  • There's more than one

    Votes: 9 8.2%
  • A human lacking any personal magic power (it comes from objects) 4 9.09%

    Votes: 13 11.8%

  • Total voters
    110
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They could always do it so that time goes so fast in Hell-A that by the time they get out it's Fray time, and Dark Willow somehow takes them back to the past.

Although, if it's Angelus, and if the SP made Angel human at the same time that LA went to hell, maybe Angelus never went to hell at all

Interesting point. I really wish I had brought my comics to the States with me. I feel like I should re-read the issues just to see if this Angelus theory makes sense.

I'll be dissappionted if it's not Angelus.

I do have one question though...would Angelus really wear a mask and costume, for lack of a better word? Would he call himself anything other than Angelus or the Scourge of Europe?
 
Interesting point. I really wish I had brought my comics to the States with me. I feel like I should re-read the issues just to see if this Angelus theory makes sense.

I'll be dissappionted if it's not Angelus.

I do have one question though...would Angelus really wear a mask and costume, for lack of a better word? Would he call himself anything other than Angelus or the Scourge of Europe?

Maybe. For one thing, for him it could be one big mind game to be "Twilight". And for another, the military and a rouge slayer wouldn't trust one of the most evil vampires there is would they? But if they don't know it's him...
 
Maybe. For one thing, for him it could be one big mind game to be "Twilight". And for another, the military and a rouge slayer wouldn't trust one of the most evil vampires there is would they? But if they don't know it's him...

Since he is wearing a mask I would think they are as in the dark about his identity as we are.

What about Buffy though, should she have sensed him when they fought, if it was Angelus? Like she said, she feels Angel when he is around, even if she doesn't see him. Does that work with Angelus too? What about his style of fighting should that be completely recognisable to her too?

This really raising to many questions for me!
 
I do have one question though...would Angelus really wear a mask and costume, for lack of a better word? Would he call himself anything other than Angelus or the Scourge of Europe?


The mask and costume could simply be protection from sunlight, with a little stake proof armor tossed in. Certainly, if that's so, he wouldn't want to announce the fact by only wearing it while actually being exposed to the sun's rays. He would wear it all of the time just to conceal its real function.

As for the pseudonym, maybe he's saving the big revelation for just the right moment so that he can use the shock factor to distract Buffy.
 
He could also being using the name Twilight to hide from the SP, no doubt they wouldn't want Angelus just roaming around doing whatever he wants?
 
He could also being using the name Twilight to hide from the SP, no doubt they wouldn't want Angelus just roaming around doing whatever he wants?

Also, and this might be really stretching it, there is some mention somewhere, a poem or short story or Biblical passage that I really can't completely remember, about there being a connection between angels and twilight. Maybe it'll come back to me in the wee hours of the morning.
 
C
Clem Rocks
I look forward to reading about it if you can remember it
I have a theory(It could be bunnies! lol sorry, couldn't resist) that's even more stretching it, but would tie in with it being Angelus: If they have been separated in the the way we mentioned, and if Angelus was half of what Angel was, what do you reckon half of the Circle of the Black Thorn symbol would look like, even if it was slightly altered? The Twilight is Falling symbol maybe?...
 
Angels and twilight It might just be a coincidence, but I knew that I had read it somewhere...


part I: the sleepers beneath (the prophecy)]

As clouds descend from evening skies
And the day entwines with night
The wind whispers a lullaby
Once forgotten in time

The song of this timeless wind
Was once buried deep
But now it has risen from beneath
From where twilight's angels sleep

The abominations of evenfall
Lie awaiting the sign;
A prophetic son, yet not born,
In the womb awaiting his time

The child he shall be born tonight,
Unaware of his might divine
For he may be a guide to light
Or call the beasts beyond night

It is said that if the child's alive
There will be no night
No disease shall steal a life
And grief turns to delight

It is said that if the child's alive,
There will be no nightmares
The horrors of the evenfall
Shall burn away like flares
But if the child is dead,
Never there will be a dawn
The twilight's angels shall arise
By the stillborn one's call

If twilight's angels will be released,
It will be the end of all
The pain, the plague, the death unleashed
From heavens they fall

[part II: the birth]

A silent await for the child to born,
The time is at hand
A woman gives birth to son
While mist veils the land

An eerie whisper, almost like a ghost,
Roars upon her bed
She gave a birth to son..
Yet the child is dead.

[part III: the abomination unveiled]

Winds gather to unite deep within the woods
The twilight's angels arise hungering for souls
The mist is swept by the risen storm,
And clouds above turn red;
The spell is cast from the land forlorn
Where abominations slept
The twilight's angels depart
Under the bleeding skies
Dancing to eternities, praising the endless night
The storm screams a serenade,
As the twilight's angels dance
All life is swept by the raging plague,
And waters turn to sand


That's not all of it. I can't find the rest, or even who the author was. It was in my poetry file.
 
Some interesting lines in there

Never there will be a dawn: All magic being gone would probably kill Dawn seeing as she was born from magic

It will be the end of all: The end of magic

All life is swept by the raging plague: All humans getting sired?

So you could be on to something there


Where is that from?
 
Some interesting lines in there

Never there will be a dawn: All magic being gone would probably kill Dawn seeing as she was born from magic

It will be the end of all: The end of magic

All life is swept by the raging plague: All humans getting sired?

So you could be on to something there


Where is that from?


I've been trying to find the original source on the web, and so far with no success. It's an excerpt from a poem that I found quite some time ago and thought that I could use it in a story, but now I can't find the rest of it. I'll keep looking, and maybe someone here might recognize it.
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It's at this site,
Encyclopaedia Metallum - Black Swan (Fin) - When the Angels of Twilight Dance
 
I had a dream that it was Riley, and it totally made sense to me!
Really... I'm on the edge between Caleb and Riley. Caleb because of what Twilight says in "A beautiful Sunset" and Riley... Because my dreams makes sense to me!
 
Urgh, I'm now jumping on the Angelus bandwagon. I want it to be either him or Riley, 'cause it'd be funny, lol.
 
Kean
Kean
If it's not Angelus I'm going to be pissed!
B "Riley?"

R "That's right Buffy.. I'm evil now."

W "Buffy! Wait is that Riley?"

R "Hi Willow...I'm evil."

W "Hi Riley...Oh, ah..Does it hurt?"
 
Being the a-double-s that I am I would like to propose this hypothesis. Considering it is Joss, and he in fact did change, or HAS changed storylines in mid-stream, what is to say that he thought this coup of it being Angel so unfathomable that when 'we' discovered it was Angel he decides to change it, just to 'shock' everyone. Know what I mean? Maybe up until now (or five minutes from now) it was supposed to be an Angel (or angelus) shocker but since the it was figured out he alters the original course to make it a shocker once again.
 
Angelic Slayer
Angelic Slayer
I've actually always wondered if any of the shows stars/creators/writers have popped their heads in here... we are crazy huge, concidering
Being the a-double-s that I am I would like to propose this hypothesis. Considering it is Joss, and he in fact did change, or HAS changed storylines in mid-stream, what is to say that he thought this coup of it being Angel so unfathomable that when 'we' discovered it was Angel he decides to change it, just to 'shock' everyone. Know what I mean? Maybe up until now (or five minutes from now) it was supposed to be an Angel (or angelus) shocker but since the it was figured out he alters the original course to make it a shocker once again.

That's a good point. Think Joss is stalkin' the boards, reading this thread, and thinking 'Damn it! They figured out my master plan. Now I have to think of something entirely different! Stupid Buffy-Boarders, *grumble grumble*'

:lmao:
 
Skanky Vamp
Skanky Vamp
and if it were such a good point you could gave me some rep.. goodness
That's a good point. Think Joss is stalkin' the boards, reading this thread, and thinking 'Damn it! They figured out my master plan. Now I have to think of something entirely different! Stupid Buffy-Boarders, *grumble grumble*'

:lmao:
Egggactly! I know he lurks this boards.. actually.. he did say at one point he read alot of the chatty forums. I can't imagine him grumbling grumbling though

"Keanoite agrees: Karma whore lol...happy now? 😛"
How DARE you qualify me with phrase karma!
 
Kean
Kean
Karma whore lol...happy now? :P
Lyri
Lyri
I agree with Kean...Karma whore! lmao
Joss is hiding under a secret identity.... *glares at a certain spoon fixated girl...or man*
 
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