thetopher
Member of the Church Of Faith
Right. So the fact that Spike manipulated Buffy was not a bad thing.
Yes it was a bad thing it was because it was selfish. Demon Spike didn't care if he hurt Buffy as long as he got what he wanted; emotional manipulation, blackmail, sexual assault.
Demon-love is selfish love.
When Spike was a good "person", in S7 he again manipulated Buffy with a rah-rah pep talk so she could go and get the scythe and all that jazz.
Again not entirely unselfish. Spike at the very least wanted (actually demanded) Buffy to forgive him for 'hs' past actions against her. He wanted credit for getting a soul and told her this on multiple occasions.
I do agree that he was more successful in Season 7 though.