President Donald Trump

[Anyanka Bunny Slayer]

There's so much negativity on social media now. People talking about killing themselves, sending their kids overseas, and my favourite, getting California to succeed from the country.
I've NEVER seen such a display of utter retardation. They were so sure that Hillary was going to win. And there's protests in the streets, of course. (They're lucky that I don't drive, because they'd be road kill if they blocked my car)
Despite all that, I am highly amused. 😀

 

[GwenRaiden]

I can't stand Michael Moore but he makes a good point here:


"4. Everyone must stop saying they are "stunned" and "shocked". What you mean to say is that you were in a bubble and weren't paying attention to your fellow Americans and their despair. YEARS of being neglected by both parties, the anger and the need for revenge against the system only grew. Along came a TV star they liked whose plan was to destroy both parties and tell them all "You're fired!" Trump's victory is no surprise. He was never a joke. Treating him as one only strengthened him. He is both a creature and a creation of the media and the media will never own that."

 

[white avenger]

getting California to succeed from the country.
I've NEVER seen such a display of utter retardation.

California's no great loss. Dern state's gonna slide off into the Pacific any day now, anyhow. As for cessation, us Southerners fought a war about that 150 years ago. Didn't work then, won't work now.

Utter retardation? How about mobs of Hillary supporters rioting because their candidate lost a reasonably fair election? Big news flash: TANTRUMS ARE FOR BABIES!!! Even Hillary and Obama had the good grace, albeit 12 hours after the fact, to concede the contest. You don't have to like the results, and you don't have to like the winner. What you DO have to do is acknowledge that the majority of the American voters chose Donald Trump to be the next President of the United States.

Second news flash: YES, TRUMP IS, OR AT LEAST WILL BE, YOUR PRESIDENT! That's how our elections work. He's everybody's President for at least 4, maybe 8, years, barring him dying in office, and, before anyone say it, even TALKING about assassinating the President is a Federal offense, punishable by a prison sentence.

The Hillary backers have 4 whole years to plan, plot, and prepare for a rematch. My suggestion is that they quit wasting their time with childish displays, grow up, and get on with their lives. If they can't do that, I would suggest that they get used to the way that the real world works, or migrate before the wall gets built.

 

[Guy]

There's so much negativity on social media now.

(They're lucky that I don't drive, because they'd be road kill if they blocked my car)
Despite all that, I am highly amused. 😀

Seems that negativity is going around...

 

[GwenRaiden]

Utter retardation? How about mobs of Hillary supporters rioting because their candidate lost a reasonably fair election?

I hate that word. I think a lot of the anger comes from Clinton winning the popular vote, and in the end, the "small" margin by which he won, and the fact that a lot of people didn't vote at all. Tbh, I don't blame people for not voting. I'm not saying it's right ("rioting"), or that she should have won with the popular vote, just that I can understand why. Also, my not being an American citizen I don't know how many times the electoral college system has produced a winner, beating the popular vote. No idea.

 

[white avenger]

Seems that negativity is going around...

Yep. Though, I honestly can't imagine, if it had gone the other way, there would have been rioting in the streets over the end results, or even all that many tears. More than a few quite appropriate curse words, yes, and a good bit of alcohol consumed, certainly, but no tears.

 

[Skanky Vamp]

What you DO have to do is acknowledge that the majority of the American voters chose Donald Trump to be the next President of the United States.

That is incorrect. The majority of American voters chose Hillary Clinton to be the next President.

 

[white avenger]

I hate that word. I think a lot of the anger comes from Clinton winning the popular vote, and in the end, the "small" margin by which he won, and the fact that a lot of people didn't vote at all.

Clinton isn't the first candidate to win the popular vote but lose the electoral vote, and she won't be the last. That's the law in the United States. And the fact that more people eligible to vote, didn't feel the need to do so is sad, but not the fault of the people who actually did vote. Clinton's people underestimated Trump's ability to encourage his supporters to actually vote. The result is, he won, she lost. That's the truth, sad as it may be.

 

[GwenRaiden]

I'm wondering, American BB'ers, as I'm reading a lot on Twitter from unknowns, how is the atmosphere in your towns/states, and how did your states vote? I'd like to hear from real sources.

 

[white avenger]

I'm wondering, American BB'ers, as I'm reading a lot on Twitter from unknowns, how is the atmosphere in your towns/states, and how did your states vote? I'd like to hear from real sources.

Speaking for myself, I have met exactly 3 people who ever made any claim to support Hillary, and more than a few of my friends are usually hard line Democrats. Not all of them supported, or voted for, Trump, but the anti-Hillary sentiment in my part of the country was pretty much universal.

 

[Sternbeeere]

Speaking for myself, I have met exactly 3 people who ever made any claim to support Hillary, and more than a few of my friends are usually hard line Democrats. Not all of them supported, or voted for, Trump, but the anti-Hillary sentiment in my part of the country was pretty much universal.

This is pretty much understandable. Also as I see it, in the USA there are huge differences in opinion within a political party, do not get me wrong, differences are everywhere, but they are more prominent in the USA. This once again leads me to thought that had the democratic candidate someone else and less aggressive, with a better image etc. he or she might have better chances.

 

[Guy]

Yep. Though, I honestly can't imagine, if it had gone the other way, there would have been rioting in the streets over the end results, or even all that many tears. More than a few quite appropriate curse words, yes, and a good bit of alcohol consumed, certainly, but no tears.

I don't know, quite a few Trump supporters said they would go out to the streets with their muskets, if he lost.

(do people really still have muskets? I thought human kind has graduated to M16's)

Clinton isn't the first candidate to win the popular vote but lose the electoral vote, and she won't be the last.

She's the third, actually. The second was Al-Gore, in 2000, and people were royally pissed off then too. And rightfully so.

That's the law in the United States.

That's a law that ought to be changed. As things stand today, the vote of a person in Virginia, for example, is worth more than the vote of a person in California, due to the electoral system. That needs to change.

 

[white avenger]

This once again leads me to thought that had the democratic candidate someone else and less aggressive, with a better image etc. he or she might have better chances.

Almost certainly, yes. Against almost any other Democratic candidate, Trump would have come up short. Also, against almost other "real" Republican, Hillary would have stood a better chance. had the bad fortune to be under indictment for several unethical, if not downright criminal, activities and scandals. Add to that, her platform was more or less a continuation of the Obama policies, Obamacare in particular, that the tax payers are just plain sick and tired of. Trump is certainly no saint, but immorality doesn't compare to Hillary's assumed crimes and outright treason.

In Trump's favor is the fact that he will be able to place at least one Supreme Court Justice on the bench, possibly 2, or even 3, which would be a major incentive for conservatives to give him their support.

The campaign, instead of concentrating on actual issues, degenerated into a mud slinging contest, and Trump simply had more, and better, mud to sling against Hillary than she had to sling against him.
 

(do people really still have muskets? I thought human kind has graduated to M16's)

They sure do. Black powder shooting is quite popular in the U S. M16's, on the other hand, are fully automatic military weapons, requiring a special license to own. The average private citizen couldn't afford one. AR15's are regular semiautomatic rifles cosmetically altered to resemble the military counterpart. There is no mechanical difference between an AR15 and the .22 automatic rifle that my father taught me to hunt squirrels with 50 years ago.

 

[Anyanka Bunny Slayer]

California's no great loss. Dern state's gonna slide off into the Pacific any day now, anyhow. As for cessation, us Southerners fought a war about that 150 years ago. Didn't work then, won't work now.

Utter retardation? How about mobs of Hillary supporters rioting because their candidate lost a reasonably fair election? Big news flash: TANTRUMS ARE FOR BABIES!!! Even Hillary and Obama had the good grace, albeit 12 hours after the fact, to concede the contest. You don't have to like the results, and you don't have to like the winner. What you DO have to do is acknowledge that the majority of the American voters chose Donald Trump to be the next President of the United States.

Second news flash: YES, TRUMP IS, OR AT LEAST WILL BE, YOUR PRESIDENT! That's how our elections work. He's everybody's President for at least 4, maybe 8, years, barring him dying in office, and, before anyone say it, even TALKING about assassinating the President is a Federal offense, punishable by a prison sentence.

The Hillary backers have 4 whole years to plan, plot, and prepare for a rematch. My suggestion is that they quit wasting their time with childish displays, grow up, and get on with their lives. If they can't do that, I would suggest that they get used to the way that the real world works, or migrate before the wall gets built.

All these morons, whining and crying; I didn't realize how many retards were in the country. Some threaten to leave (they won't, of course), others say they don't accept Trump. Which is HILARIOUS since they can't change anything.

We voted. He won. Get over it. My God, I'm so amused...and currently trolling Twitter, just for fun. They are insane and I CAN'T stop laughing.

 

[Guy]

They sure do. Black powder shooting is quite popular in the U S. M16's, on the other hand, are fully automatic military weapons, requiring a special license to own. The average private citizen couldn't afford one. AR15's are regular semiautomatic rifles cosmetically altered to resemble the military counterpart. There is no mechanical difference between an AR15 and the .22 automatic rifle that my father taught me to hunt squirrels with 50 years ago.

Man, U.S gun laws are WEIRD... Why do you need a license to own one kind of guns, but another kind can just be handed to anybody? Semiautomatics can kill people just as easily as automatics. Easier, actually - long M16's are more cumbersome.

And if it's about the second amendment, why is it not extended to ALL guns?

In Israel, we have to be trained and licensed before we can get one, and gun accidents still happen all the time. I'd be terrified if anyone could get a gun here, without any licensing.

 

[Carrie Hopewell]

Man, U.S gun laws are WEIRD... Why do you need a license to own one kind of guns, but another kind can just be handed to anybody? Semiautomatics can kill people just as easily as automatics. Easier, actually - long M16's are more cumbersome.

And if it's about the second amendment, why is it not extended to ALL guns?

In Israel, we have to be trained and licensed before we can get one, and gun accidents still happen all the time. I'd be terrified if anyone could get a gun here, without any licensing.

I don't know anyone who owns a gun in Portugal. I've never even heard people have a conversation about guns. It's weird when people casually talk about owing them. If I saw anyone who wasn't a police officer with a gun, I'd panic.

 

[Guy]

I don't know anyone who owns a gun in Portugal. I've never even heard people have a conversation about guns. It's weird when people casually talk about owing them. If I saw anyone who wasn't a police officer with a gun, I'd panic.

I know civilians who own guns here, but it's still very uncommon for non-soldiers (Well, except for people who live near the borders). No one in my family owns a gun, and I haven't owned a gun since I finished the army (and good riddance).

And we're in the freakin' middle east! AKA the hole-y land (As in bullet holes? Because there's lots of wars and terrorism here? Get it? Get it? Shut up, I'm really proud of that pun)! What's America's excuse?

 

[thrasherpix]

I'm wondering, American BB'ers, as I'm reading a lot on Twitter from unknowns, how is the atmosphere in your towns/states, and how did your states vote? I'd like to hear from real sources.

This is the first POTUS race that was unenthusiastic around me. Gone were the yard signs and bumper stickers of the Democrat or Republican candidate (I don't think I saw more than 12 in all when in past years I think I've seen hundreds each election cycle). I literally saw more for Bernie than Trump and Clinton combined, and that was rare. This was only in regards to Trump and Clinton, the signs and promotions for other candidates and issues were just as popular as ever (which goes to show it wasn't that they were "just afraid," especially as some cars had a collection of stickers that were of the political fringe, both right and left).

Most people weren't willing to talk about it. Those that did expressed dismay at the choices, and generally felt that no matter who won, everyone was going to have to take a big bite of a...well, I'm not familiar enough with board policies to complete that statement so I'll hope you know how it ends (and also fear that the next one will be even worse, and so on, until the nation can no longer stand).

And I noticed how the race was more like a reality show with the audience who seemed enthused acting like they were watching Jerry Springer rather than an election (I personally didn't know anyone particularly enthused about either), which was even worse than the last election, and the one before that, and so on. There was so much ugliness (still is) that it was stunning to see. So I asked some I was close to, all but one is an Independent who rejects partisan politics as generally those are the only ones I feel I can have a rational talk with on the subject, and they about all agreed about how bad it has gotten. Two of them said what was happening now (and this is more aimed at the American People rather than the choices, though the choices were included) said it was "horrifying," and neither of them are prone to overstatements or being dramatic. This ranged from people in their 40s to my grandmother in her 70s who all agreed to the downward spiral America was in when it came to elections. (That said, they all also had interesting things to say about how rough the going was in the past as well, some of it really interesting to me, but overall they never would've believed it would ever get this bad until they saw it had.)

On top of that was the usual things that always go on in politics, but I just wanted to point out what those I talked to considered different this time around. While most I know were "hell no" to Trump, hardly anyone was excited about Clinton (and some were angry that she was the alternative). I just got back from running errands and there were a lot of people in the line at the grocery store stocking up on liquor, a lot more than I think I've ever seen before (even holidays), and the mood was different. But whether people drink that stuff to celebrate or drown their sorrows, I'd advise against talking to them either way until their heads clear.

 

[Carrie Hopewell]

I know civilians who own guns here, but it's still very uncommon for non-soldiers (Well, except for people who live near the borders). No one in my family owns a gun, and I haven't owned a gun since I finished the army (and good riddance).

You've been in the army?? Is that part of the compulsory military training thing that some countries still have? My dad did that because he had to, but it's no longer mandatory. It's weird to think of people my age in the army... or about people my age with guns... I only saw a gun (don't know which kind) once. It was part of this thing we have which is mandatory and happens when you turn 18: you go to a army base (?) for a day and they show you weaponry, tell you about the army and what they do, etc. I don't really remember tbh. It was so boring...

And we're in the freakin' middle east! AKA the hole-y land (As in bullet holes? Because there's lots of wars and terrorism here? Get it? Get it? Shut up, I'm really proud of that pun)! What's America's excuse?

(The Angel Rewatch)

 

[Guy]

You've been in the army?? Is that part of the compulsory military training thing that some countries still have?

Yep. Every Israeli serves in the army for 3 years, after turning 18.

It's weird to think of people my age in the army... or about people my age with guns...

It's... Not that different than driving a car. You're responsible for this thing that can easily kill people. Which is why you need to be trained and licensed to own it...

I only saw a gun (don't know which kind) once. It was part of this thing we have which is mandatory and happens when you turn 18: you go to a army base (?) for a day and they show you weaponry, tell you about the army and what they do, etc. I don't really remember tbh. It was so boring...

It's even boringer when you have to be in it for 3 years...

(The Angel Rewatch)

 

3 years? Ouch...Is that why you're still in college?

Yeah.